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		<title>Monty Responds</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael "Monty" Widenius wrote a nicely-worded response to my previous post "Oracle, Mysql and the GPL: don't take Monty's word for it", and I thought it deserves more visibility, so I'm quoting it below. For the record, I'm not an Oracle "fan" and am ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Trebuchet, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(38, 38, 38); line-height: 19px; ">Michael &#8220;Monty&#8221; Widenius wrote a nicely-worded response to my previous post &#8220;Oracle, Mysql and the GPL: don&#8217;t take Monty&#8217;s word for it&#8221;, and I thought it deserves more visibility, so I&#8217;m quoting it below. For the record, I&#8217;m not an Oracle &#8220;fan&#8221; and am in agreement with Steven O&#8217;Grady, who wrote that Monty mostly just <a href="http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/12/15/endgame-qa/"  style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(7, 105, 141); cursor: pointer; ">wants to get the band back together</a> and is pursuing the shortest path to that destination. I can&#8217;t fault him for that. What I objected to was what I felt was a conflict of interest that hadn&#8217;t been seirously reported. That, and I really dislike how this brouhaha has resulted in <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091208104422384"  style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(7, 105, 141); cursor: pointer; ">unfair attacks on the GPL and dual-licensing in general</a>.</span>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael "Monty" Widenius wrote a nicely-worded response to my previous post "Oracle, Mysql and the GPL: don't take Monty's word for it", and I thought it deserves more visibility, so I'm quoting it below. For the record, I'm not an Oracle "fan" and am ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande', Trebuchet, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(38, 38, 38); line-height: 19px; ">Michael &#8220;Monty&#8221; Widenius wrote a nicely-worded response to my previous post &#8220;Oracle, Mysql and the GPL: don&#8217;t take Monty&#8217;s word for it&#8221;, and I thought it deserves more visibility, so I&#8217;m quoting it below. For the record, I&#8217;m not an Oracle &#8220;fan&#8221; and am in agreement with Steven O&#8217;Grady, who wrote that Monty mostly just <a href="http://redmonk.com/sogrady/2009/12/15/endgame-qa/"  style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(7, 105, 141); cursor: pointer; ">wants to get the band back together</a> and is pursuing the shortest path to that destination. I can&#8217;t fault him for that. What I objected to was what I felt was a conflict of interest that hadn&#8217;t been seirously reported. That, and I really dislike how this brouhaha has resulted in <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091208104422384"  style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(7, 105, 141); cursor: pointer; ">unfair attacks on the GPL and dual-licensing in general</a>.</span>
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		<title>Oracle, MySQL and the GPL: don&#8217;t take Monty&#8217;s word for it</title>
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<p>In the continuing soap opera of Oracle&#8217;s battle against the European Commission for the right to acquire Sun, and with it, MySQL, we have had to rely on the bloggers and analysts to get it right, because the media surely has not. Before you read any further, stop right now and read Matthew Aslett&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/12/10/the-case-against-the-case-against-oracle-mysql/" >excellent summary of Oracle-MySQL through last wee</a>k, Pamela Jones&#8217; <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091021164738392" >excellent piece on the matter</a> (and her <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091208104422384" >later update</a>), and Matt Asay&#8217;s <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10412734-16.html" >highlighting of Monty Widenius&#8217; conflict of interest</a> in opposing the Sun acquisition.One of the more damaging consequences of this case is the opportunistic piling on against the GPL license. Every BSD Tom, Dick and Harry with an axe to grind about Richard Stallman, the GPL, and GNU has stepped up to the plate, on cue, to deliver unsubstantiated rants against the GPL. I suggest that readers follow the money and look into the reasons why each party takes the stance it does. Oracle&#8217;s bias and intent in all of this is pretty clear, but the opposition has not been so forthright.Read more below:</p>
<p>in reference to: <a href="http://ostatic.com/blog/oracle-mysql-and-the-gpl-dont-take-montys-word-for-it">Oracle, MySQL and the GPL: don&#8217;t take Monty&#8217;s word for it</a> (<a href="http://www.google.com/sidewiki/entry/porkrind/id/xqYZJyLtuklO6fHuUoJZ6HER6aY">view on Google Sidewiki</a>)</div>
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<p>In the continuing soap opera of Oracle&#8217;s battle against the European Commission for the right to acquire Sun, and with it, MySQL, we have had to rely on the bloggers and analysts to get it right, because the media surely has not. Before you read any further, stop right now and read Matthew Aslett&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.the451group.com/opensource/2009/12/10/the-case-against-the-case-against-oracle-mysql/" >excellent summary of Oracle-MySQL through last wee</a>k, Pamela Jones&#8217; <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091021164738392" >excellent piece on the matter</a> (and her <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20091208104422384" >later update</a>), and Matt Asay&#8217;s <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10412734-16.html" >highlighting of Monty Widenius&#8217; conflict of interest</a> in opposing the Sun acquisition.</p>
<p>One of the more damaging consequences of this case is the opportunistic piling on against the GPL license. Every BSD Tom, Dick and Harry with an axe to grind about Richard Stallman, the GPL, and GNU has stepped up to the plate, on cue, to deliver unsubstantiated rants against the GPL. I suggest that readers follow the money and look into the reasons why each party takes the stance it does. Oracle&#8217;s bias and intent in all of this is pretty clear, but the opposition has not been so forthright.</p>
<p>Read more below:</p>
<p>in reference to: <a href="http://ostatic.com/blog/oracle-mysql-and-the-gpl-dont-take-montys-word-for-it">Oracle, MySQL and the GPL: don&#8217;t take Monty&#8217;s word for it</a> (<a href="http://www.google.com/sidewiki/entry/porkrind/id/xqYZJyLtuklO6fHuUoJZ6HER6aY">view on Google Sidewiki</a>)</div>
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